The Karl et al. study highlights something I've been thinking about lately. I don't know if the Karl paper is important, good, or bad. It claims to debunk the slowdown in surface warming. Other papers will claim the opposite. This won't be the end of it, but imagine that it was – imagine that we saw a decisive breakthrough in climate science, or a series of them, that debunked the slowdown, and another body of work that settled on 3.1 °C for ECS.
If you're a climate skeptic, or better yet, a person who is currently skeptical of burdensome future human-caused warming, you should be ready not to be. You're presumably skeptical because of issues you see with the evidence, levels of certainty or uncertainty, perhaps features of climate science and its methods or predictive track record. All of those issues can in theory be resolved by new evidence, or new types of evidence and methods. If you're a skeptic or a lukewarmer I wouldn't assume that the evidence is going to roll your way. (ECS seems to have had a bit of a downward run over the last few years, but who knows.) You should be ready for anything, evidence-wise. Don't get too comfortable. Life is full of surprises, and so is nature. Earth's climate answers to no one. It will do whatever it does. It is completely uncoupled from our desires, agendas, elections, ideologies, beliefs, arguments, pride, etc. I don't think people should hitch their ideological wagons to the behavior of a planetary climate system. That's odd. This applies to everyone of course. Scientific notes: 1. Measuring surface temperatures sure is complicated. In fact, as Gavin Schmidt said, global mean temperature isn't measured per se. It's estimated. Scientists can come along in 2015 and redo the temperature estimates for the past several decades. That's strange. Most sciences don't work that way, don't have this constant process of re-estimation of past measured variables. If scientists can redo temperature estimates in 2015, they can presumably redo them in 2016, and 2017, and perhaps in 2023. I think we need to understand this better. Maybe they're closing in on maximum feasible bias reduction and we won't see much adjustment in the future, but this should be explained. 2. Knowing about or believing in human-caused climate change is nothing like knowing about gravity or that the earth is not flat. This is not like looking at something and seeing that it's there, or figuring out the horizon, or dropping a ball. It's so much more complicated, driven by inferential estimates and wicked statistics. Climate activists should be much less mean to skeptics, and stop trying to treat this issue as though people are obligated to march to the claims of a young, complex, and revisionist science. I don't think people are obligated to believe in things they cannot observe or confirm directly except in special circumstances. Believing in everything the media folds under "science" is probably unwise, and it's unclear how a rational knower is supposed to navigate our media/science culture. I don't have any kind of prescription. Caring The eternal caveat applies: The science is just the science. It doesn't have to matter to you, not politically, not philosophically or personally. People get to choose their political philosophies and ethical systems, and you don't need to catastrophize any arbitrary level of future adversity if you don't want to. You don't have to care about the science of obesity, or the science of testicular cancer, or the science of sadness, or an increase in storm count. There are lots of things a person could choose to care about or not care about, and it's unclear why anyone has to care about any particular science or diffuse future risks. There's a mindset in modern politics that wants to "Do Something!" about everything. I think we'll find that some of it is driven by affluence – that people worry about more things, smaller things, the more affluent a society becomes. In any case a person's quality of life is powerfully shaped by their perspective and framing – we know how profound that can be, the glass half full vs. half empty mindset. It's strange that we never seem to apply that wisdom to environmental issues. You could put me on the gulf coast and jack up the hurricane count by a third, and I wouldn't care if I had someone to love and books to read. There are so many other things going on in a human life than weather and sea levels, so much more beyond material and economic concerns. Some people (not me) would move to Mars if they had a chance, even though the climate would be so hostile that they'd be confined to quarters. That's not just about affluent American space geeks – most people in the world don't care about climate change, even when forced to choose six "priorities" in a biased UN survey. The UN wouldn't let me participate in the survey because I couldn't find six things on their list that were priorities to me. The list is framed from a top-down, government-centric bias that enjoins people to express vague wishes for "better" roads, health care, food, and so forth. They don't offer priorities like "end the drug war", "deregulate immigration", "cut taxes", "eliminate income taxes", "free market healthcare", or "get the UN out of my life." It was designed for the UN to be able to say that adults around the world want governments to deliver things like "affordable and nutritious food" and "action on climate change". The items and forced choices will systematically discriminate against non-leftist participants, as well as people who don't think there are lots of problems they need authority figures to solve – such people won't even be allowed to submit their answers. The stated goal of the survey is "that global leaders can be informed as they begin the process of defining the new development agenda for the world", what economist William Easterly would call the "Tyranny of Experts". And still, even with the rigged design, people don't choose climate change. Relatedly, Bjorn Lomborg was correct to say that Pacific Islanders don't care about it. (Choose Oceania in the dropdown.) Pretty much no one does. It doesn't make the cut on any continent or region that they list. As for affluence, start with the Low HDI countries option and work your way up – the poorest countries care the least. As per my hypothesis above, more people care as you work up HDI, yet it never makes the cut even in the richest. I didn't know that until today. I thought environmentalism was more popular than this, but I now realize that I probably just know a lot of environmentalists.
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Bdaabat
6/4/2015 10:47:28 pm
Most people that self label as environmentalists don't know much about the environment. Most people that self label as environmentalists don't know much about math, science, or economics. It seems that most folks that self identify as environmentalists are really interested more in appearing to care about the environment and than actually caring about the environment. For example: when queried, those self identifying as being environmentalists have not been supportive of technologies that would produce ample and inexpensive access to energy, even if that new energy source were non polluting. That's truly a remarkable acknowledgement... Those that self label as environmentalists REALLY aren't interested in doing anything for the environment. The belief of the self identified environmentalist is that people are bad and that anything that helps people is bad. The "environment" seems more like the convenient excuse to retard anything that contributes to overall human success. This is sad and ironic... Not only are humans not valued in this world view, but the stated goal (helping the "environment") is negatively impacted by this world view.
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Hide
6/5/2015 04:30:13 am
Gavin Schmidt says now that 'measuring surface temps is an estimate'.
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Gavin
6/5/2015 04:49:16 am
100% wrong. http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2015/01/thoughts-on-2014-and-ongoing-temperature-trends/
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Hide
6/5/2015 02:13:49 pm
100% right, Gavin. Read your own link!
Chad
6/5/2015 01:55:59 pm
Exactly. NASA released a statement ( with no caveats) that 2014 was the warmest year on record.
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Chad
6/5/2015 02:06:41 pm
I think I was wrong with regards to television appearances by Gavin promoting it.
James NV
6/5/2015 03:57:11 pm
Hansen went around telling people the oceans were going to boil. Some people defended him by saying he qualified the remarks in a previous book he wrote. Is that kosher? 6/11/2015 02:24:31 pm
Mr. Hide, Gavin appears to be right in calling your claim false. At the very least, I'd say it was oversimplified. In the referenced essay, Gavin says:
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6/11/2015 02:25:03 pm
Mr. Hide, Gavin appears to be right in calling your claim false. At the very least, I'd say it was oversimplified. In the referenced essay, Gavin says:
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6/11/2015 02:27:13 pm
More on the stats: http://www.joseduarte.com/blog/hottest-year-on-record
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Terry Cain
6/5/2015 04:37:43 am
Excellent post, Jose.
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Dr. Jay Cadbury, phd.
6/5/2015 04:55:52 am
Terry, I agree with everything you said. The biggest differences between skeptics and alarmists is that we skeptics are willing to admit if climate sensitivity is high, global warming would be a problem and we should mitigate. However, if climate sensitivity is low (and evidence continues to mount that it is) there is no problem. But the alarmists will never concede this point.
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James NV
6/5/2015 02:36:53 pm
I disagree. While YOU might be willing to change your tune, most people are divided along ideological lines for a reason. If the evidence really did indicate a major global issue, I bet only a smallish percent of people would change their tune. (It must be delightful for you folk to have the science line up once in a while...;)
Slywolfe
6/5/2015 11:41:39 pm
I don't think global warming, even if real, will be a problem.
Dr. Jay Cadbury, phd.
6/5/2015 04:54:09 am
Jose,
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James NV
6/5/2015 12:19:34 pm
I find it very hard to believe that for every degree of warming caused directly by CO2, the climate warms [up to] an additional 3.5 degrees extra. Apparently that's just how the climate reacts to extra heat: it amplifies it by up to 450%.
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6/7/2015 12:45:39 am
James, you have followed a much-travelled path. I wrote a blog post about others who have been affected:
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Russ R.
6/7/2015 04:40:14 am
I am, and always have been, a skeptic. Not just about climate change... about everything.
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Kristophr
6/9/2015 04:35:09 am
Show me one model that correctly back predicts existing data ... i.e., starting the model 50 years in the past, and then correctly "predicting" the current climate.
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MikeR
6/8/2015 05:36:53 am
Great post. "You could put me on the gulf coast and jack up the hurricane count by a third, and I wouldn't care if I had someone to love and books to read." +1 Doesn't mean it's not important, but it sure means that there can be a lot of other issues that are more important to a person.
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6/8/2015 07:35:41 pm
The first part of this post is odd, in the same way as the one before last, "All sides" was. You are asking a question to the skeptics that you really ought to be asking to the climate scientists.
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MikeR
6/9/2015 01:26:01 am
Dunno. Seems to me that Duarte is making sense. It should apply to the consensus scientists, but it should apply to skeptics as well. I have no idea whether Karl et al is correct, but if it is good work, why shouldn't all skeptics say, well: there still seems to be a Pause in tropospheric temperatures, and in land surface temperatures, and in the deep ARGO floats too, but these sea surface temperatures do seem to be going up. Okay, let's see where we are now.
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Paul Milenkovic
6/9/2015 02:58:46 am
It generally accepted that of the CO2 that humanity is emitting, only about half of it is appearing as the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere, with the rest going into some not decided upon sink. But as for the increase in CO2 that we are worrying will cause runious warming, it is widely accepted that most if not all of that is the result of the human-industrial contribution.
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Anon
4/28/2017 04:00:26 pm
"But if that is the case, the multi-decade slope in the total CO2 is more than 3 times too large to account for the much shallower slope of the C13/C12 curve."
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Doug Cotton
7/17/2015 04:05:55 pm
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MikeR
8/30/2015 02:12:25 am
Extensive discussion of your and Verhaggan's papers at judithcurry.
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